Kuwaiti Chopper Dude !!: Brought Up To Fail !!
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Nombre: The Don ®
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A true Biker that found the only escape from living in Kuwait.. taking long motorcycle rides down the highway..

sábado, noviembre 04, 2006

Brought Up To Fail !!

Ever since I stepped my foot back in my country, I started to realize something.. something that I used to find quite regular and very normal, but I think those years I spent out of the sand box, made me see some things from a different prospective than many..

I had a conversation with a friend last night.. very interesting observation we both ended up with.. let’s stop for a second and try and pull back a little.. let us take me as an example.. when I graduated and I moved back home, I was 25. I lived good amount of years on my own, doing everything by my self. I was somehow self dependent.. I say somehow, cos I had a scholarship and didn’t have to work.. I had enough grades in high school to get a full scholarship.. so my dad didn’t pay for me, other than the occasional wire transfer for a birthday, or some other passing occasion.. I remember having many American friends.. those friends used to work and go to college at the same time.. I have always admired them.. they were fighting the real fight.. I mean, I for one was supposedly on a student budget, and that means I have all my needs met, but I don’t have the luxurious life style I used to have back home.. I was in restraint from buying a supper doper fancy car for example.. My car, was quite regular in the Kuwaiti standards, but was a shock and awe to the American standards.. As much as I thought I was also struggling as a student, when I look at how my friends were living their lives, I would always wind up shutting my mouth..

This is not the subject.. it’s just a glimpse to show you where this subject is going.. those friends of mine started shaping their personality when they were 15. they worked with minimum wage jobs, started forming an identity very young.. and in the age of 18, they were out in the limp.. they had to face the real world and work their selves up from scratch.. on the other hand, I look back at my life when I was a teen, and what did I see?? I saw a wild teenager that had everything, and still not satisfied with what he had, and always looked at who is more fortunate than him, and asked to get what they have.. never even thought of work, cos in Kuwait and in that age most likely, the family won’t agree for you to work.. It is a sign of being underprivileged, and in need.. so parents most likely forbid their children from starting their independency early in life for the sake of not gossiping about the family or for the sake of them not ending up being the talk of the town… Does anyone in Kuwait remember the teenage Kuwaiti girl who started working in McDonald’s? I remember it was few years back, she started working there on her summer vacation, and she was surrounded by the press for doing that.. She was in news papers.. What about the other Kuwaiti girl who decided to work at starbucks? I remember how people used to fill that certain starbucks, just to get a glimpse at her in uniform working..

Living in Kuwait is such a delicacy.. I mean, we all go on in lives with most of our needs met.. as a matter of fact, we go on in lives with most of our wants met as well.. but that advantage has another side to it.. Having the mind set of dependent on parent’s money.. and what that does to the individual, is create the sense of dependency on the family. So, In Kuwait, you will always be with your family to find what you want.. If you are single, (male or female), living in Kuwait, you are most likely living at home with your family taking care of you. No matter how old you would get, you have to always be with the family, you can not leave the house and establish your own independence, unless you decide to have your own family.. If that person is ready to get married, then that person is free to leave the house and start a life of independency, other than that, the culture forbids us to leave our families. In fact, the culture convinces us that you will fail as an individual if you detach your self from your family and try to build your own entity without having a family of your own or your existing family to take care of you..

Back to my conversation with my friend, we are both guys who have decent jobs, I have joined the club of the big three O (30) recently, my friend is an architectural engineer who is going to join my club in a year or so.. and both live in a little room at home with our families, and we are unable to convince our parents to leave the house and live on our own. My dad believes if I leave the house, people will start gossiping that something is really wrong happened between me and my family, and that my dad kicked me out.. Where my friend’s mother would have had a heart attack thinking that the only reason for her son, the to be thirty year old eldest son, to leave the house is to sleep around with girls and drink his life away..

Our families are similar when it comes to this subjects in a way, although we have a different backgrounds when it comes to how conservative or liberal our families are.. but both of us are raised to believe that if we get on a plane and move to a different country, we are bond to fail to make it on our own. It’s part of how we were brought up, thinking that I will have nothing if I don’t have my family with me.. and both of our parents believe that too.. they believe that we will break and live a life of poverty if we try to make it on our own outside the family environment, and out of this country..

I have seen people fight the real fight from early age, working two jobs, and going to school.. they made it through.. they did well.. they understood the meaning of independence, and really understood the value of their earnings.. and those people can travel anywhere on this planet, and they will survive, cos they were trained to survive no matter how hard it would get.. On the other hand, most of us are brainwashed to fail, unless we have a family to support every move we make..

In the end, if you are a man, you are convinced that you can’t make it without having a family support, and if you are a woman, you are convinced that you can’t make it without a family or you’ll be crushed in the real world. So, to leave a family, you need to join another family, or you will fail..

Comments on "Brought Up To Fail !!"

 

Blogger MiYaFuSHi said ... (11/04/2006 7:06 PM) : 

Wow truly amazing topic.

Very true. I feel we are too spoilt.

However, I have to say with my family, my father taught us independance, and I personally, have worked for my money since the age of 16. So I am very proud of that.

 

Blogger The Don ® said ... (11/04/2006 7:24 PM) : 

MiYaFuSHi,

I am so glad that your parents never thought of you working in that age to be like I described.. it’s not the norm for a 16 year to work for his/her money over here..

but the questions stay.. do you feel confident enough to be able to pick up and go to where ever it is and be able to make it on your own without anyone’s help? And if so, do you think that your family would mind it for cultural reasons? (it doesn’t have to be outside of Kuwait, but if you desire to live in Kuwait on your own)

 

Blogger Judy Abbott said ... (11/04/2006 10:48 PM) : 

I would love to see this post, in Arabic so the whole country would be able to read it and be aware of important facts that they are missing.

Dear Don, please allow me to translate this post and publish it "on paper" under your name. Or if rather do it your self, i"m serious, this post would change lives.
A bow my friend, you deserve a bow.

Personally i never had that problem, yet the only problem was the way my friends understood me having several jobs when we aren't in need. I've been working and trying to reach a goal since i was 19, even though most of them were non profit jobs.

 

Blogger Sheba said ... (11/05/2006 1:11 AM) : 

hi agree with you on the part of it being a social taboo if a grown man/woman want to move out of their parents' place. But i do not think that your family would've not supported you had you wanted to work at an early age.

I know of many Kuwaiti teenagers who have worked. There is a whole program called Loyak which provides summer jobs for these teenagers. The queue is so long, you need wasta now!

The Scientific Center has been providing jobs for kids, so have the Coops & Sultan Center, McDs and Starbucks, even K-PAK.

First time i started working in a real job i was 19 (not that young) but i would ask my parents or grandparents for doing things like washing the car or cleaning the yard for money & they would give it to me :>

 

Blogger The Don ® said ... (11/05/2006 9:29 AM) : 

Nooni.. my sweet sweet friend, I’m not really good in conveying my thoughts in Arabic. I had the worst grades in high school in Arabic Classes.. lol

I know it’s a topic that is with importance, at least to me.. so if you would like, you can translate it your self darling.. and do anything with it.. I don’t mind at all..

I think the problem of your friends not understanding why you are working when you are not in need is the mind set I am talking about..

Sheba, to my surprise, those programs are probably relatively new, cos frankly, I never heard of them growing up in the 80’s.. and in a way, I was relieved to see that the culture is stepping towards this step.. but we need allot more than those programs. It is one thing when it gets customary to get your children in those programs for the sake of everyone is doing it, and them nagging to want to be in it cos all their friends are in it, but in my opinion, it is another when the teen finds out that it’s going to be the way of life.. in other words, in Kuwait things could be (habba) factor with families, but when that summer is over, the 18 year old will go back to getting in his/her fancy car and take his/her spending money from dad..

Sheboona, what I am try to show that the sense of security is going to be there.. knowing that if you are 30, you’ll be secure as long as you are with your family.. the same 18 year olds I talked about that enroll in these programs will not feel that they can live independently, and on their own, cos they are taught that they will fail if they try to make it in this world without the shelter of their families.. (of course I am not saying all).. it has a good part of course, feeling the family ties.. but just the fact that I know many grown up men that are still living in their parents house and convinced that if they tried to make it on their own they will fail, cos they are without their family, those two subjects are related some how, the individuals working young, and having the mind set that the grown individual can make it on their own without anyone’s help.. can you see the relation?

 

Blogger Mia said ... (11/05/2006 12:24 PM) : 

This was thought provoking. It’s odd how in this country we take the freedoms we have for example working as kids without drawing media attention for granted. Judy should definitely translate this into Arabic as a public service. This post deserves to be read by more people.

 

Blogger J said ... (11/05/2006 1:30 PM) : 

In Oman its different its so normal to see a guy or girl work in any coffee shop/fast food chain/restuarant etc. bus drivers taxi's whatever. The living alone part is kinda tricky but some guys do manage it. hehehe but girls will here "na7na ma 3endna banat eesiknoo wahidhum" :( i told my mom i will move out heheheh.

 

Blogger Sheba said ... (11/05/2006 5:08 PM) : 

i just think you want to move out bess mu 3arf shlon :p

 

Blogger Judy Abbott said ... (11/05/2006 6:09 PM) : 

Thank you.

 

Blogger christina/ohio said ... (11/05/2006 7:30 PM) : 

I don't think as an adult that I could still live with my family. I love them but they would drive me crazy!

I had my first job at 16yo in the summer between Jr and Sr year of High school. I worked in a shoe store. I continued to work all during my Sr year. After graduation I went to work full time. I moved out 2 months after my 18th birthday into my owen apartment and only went back breifly after my first marriage broke up(6 weeks).

I can't imagine not being allowed by society to break free and live on my own.

 

Blogger dishevelled said ... (11/05/2006 7:39 PM) : 

and when it's time to get married, the family convinces you that the best choice is letting them choose the family you're going to marry into, otherwise your life will be misrable :P

The question is WHY do they do that?! Is it becuase parents fear being alone? Or losing their children once they lead independent lives? And my belief: People here are terrified of change, any kind of change...

 

Blogger BB said ... (11/05/2006 11:37 PM) : 

well said .. my family taught me independance .. but its really hard when you mix yourself " unwillingly" with your cousins and friends and see how they live and you simply " as a kid" want to be like them and eventually get your way.

 

Blogger The Don ® said ... (11/06/2006 1:56 AM) : 

Mia, it’s a cultural issue sweetie.. :)

J, and the part that is contradicting, is that women will be living on their own if they decided to go to college abroad, but not when they come back, no..

Sheboona, yoozay.. lol

Nooni, :)

Chris, can you see the difference here? Teenagers might start work early in Kuwait, but it’s more like an activity, not to set them for the live that is about to come.. since the day you started working, you didn’t say ok, the summer is over, now all my friends are not gonna be working with me, and so I should stop.. you kept on working.. and by the age of 19 and 20.. you are still working.. unlike over here, where most will work just for procreation, and will go back to taking money from the family until they get to have their own family..

Disheveled, you know, that is one observation that we talked about, but I forget to mention in my post.. you really got what I am trying to say.. it’s not only kids taking easy money.. it’s not that.. it’s the way of life that families will choose everything for you.. where to live, what to study (and don’t say it’s not true, most families will have a heart attack if the son/daughter were thinking of studying something uncustomary), what job you should get, and what are the best family to choose a wife/husband from for you.. it’s all about the family.. no individual decision can make it if it was different than the norm.. they plan the best for your future, but what if you didn’t want the best? Can’t accept that..

BB, that is great.. but most families are not like yours..

 

Blogger J said ... (11/06/2006 7:33 AM) : 

My parents were in london they didnt let me go to the states for college! They told me if it was your sister (who is younger) we would let her go. When it was her turn they told her no also!

 

Blogger Desert Girl said ... (11/06/2006 2:52 PM) : 

If you have never lived alone and supported yourself, you are not independent. "Teaching" someone independence doesn't stop at instilling a work ethic or how to manage money. You've got to do it ON YOUR OWN. A job is good, but who makes the decisions in the house? You? Mom and Dad? What about for who you will marry or what kind of car you will drive or WHERE you will work/live? That isnn't independence. For all those who say, "it is a social taboo to move out of the house" - I say BULLSHIT. I know plenty of FEMALE Kuwaitis who have careers and their own places. What about the guys? Stand up, Kuwait. The only way you will gain independence is if you demand (not ask) for it.

 

Blogger dishevelled said ... (11/06/2006 5:30 PM) : 

Don, "no individual decision can make it if it was different than the norm" - that's exactly it. And it's true anything thats a bit different is looked down on, whether it's bad or better even. And it seems like parents always want the best - but what is the best really. Ya3ni my best might be different than yours different than someone elses. That's another point, a lot of people here cannot and will not accept different mentalities, beliefs or ideas.

But I'm still hopeful. I believe people are coming forth and speaking out what they have in mind, so hopefully that's the stepping stone towards changing to the better :)

 

Blogger Elijah said ... (11/12/2006 2:04 PM) : 

I trully believe that if you do leave your home and live independently, your family will eventually accept that and so will society.

I'm speaking from experience. I'm not Kuwaiti but Jordanians have very similar mentality when it comes to family ties and society's views. I decided that I wanted to leave to a whole new country and I'm a female not male. Everyone thought I was insane, I got threats from relatives, lectures, preaches and made a few enemies.

Now I've been in kuwait for 3 years, I lived on my own for 1 year, then I got my sister out here too. We didn't fail, we're doing fine.

Now I'm alot closer to my family than when I was back home and some who disapproved of me leaving even came for a visit!

Sure it was tough in the beginning but it was worth it.

Hope it works out for you.

 

Blogger Rational Woman said ... (2/14/2008 4:24 AM) : 

i completely 100% agree with u and to be honest i had to face it myself i am a 16 years old kuwaiti girl i came from a very strict family old brothers and a very strict father when i was about 15 and a half i thought about working and the only place in kuwait that hires under 18 teens at the time was mcdonalds but loyac ,beet lothan and the other companies they needed alot of paper work and they made a new rule that i should be in college and 18 yrs old to work and that it was so late to apply so the only place dat would hire me was mcdonalds i actually wanted to work not only 4 money well mybe i really wanted to buy the ipod ;p but stil i wanted 2 experience the work and having a job i worked and when they asked me where do u want to work in what mcdonalds they gave me alot of options i mean they were really nice to me like courging me to work i choosed to work in the mall to make it a real challenge most ppl would not work in the mall coz they r embaressed of meeting their friends and mates i didnt i wanted them to see me well till i really saw them ive be teased stupid comments but i made it i worked the whole summer never skipped a day never been late i actually respected my job 2 b honest more than sko0l i mean they pay me 4 cuming unlike sko0l lolz and they paid me CASH weekly! how gr8 is dat i really loved it the feeling that i had of earning that money now there is somthing i havent mentioned my father and my older brothers never knew that i was working they thought i was going to the sportclub they thought i joined and the only 1 who knew was my mom she was the 1 who drives me 2 work and clean my uniform bcoz we cant let the maid and the driver knw anyway my older sister found out later after the summer and ofcourse u knw sisters i mean im the middle kid and she is the oldest she controls me i really hate being in the middle but that is not my beggest problem my sister is really mean she went and told my brothers and father they ofcourse did what any normal kuwaiti family woud do they beated me up hard that i had cuts and blasters browses all in my face when i went to sko0l and that all happened coz i worked? and coz am a girl! they made me regrat being a girl and the worse than that is coz i hav worked i mean it is awaful and whats worse is that every1 agrees with them that i was wrong and they were right and til dis day i am not allowed 2 hav summer activities 4 the rest of my life for a stupid lil mistake i called the last summer adventure thou i really dont see the mistake but as u said kuwait is very very different u can not live in kuwait and imagine or act like u r in the US u just CANT only if u were a BOY coz boys get to do anything even crimes they make u feel like being a girl is a curse but we all knw that the biggest lie that a man ever said was when he said the man and the woman are equal .. mybe in another world!! but not in kuwait

 

Blogger The Don ® said ... (3/02/2008 2:41 PM) : 

Rational Woman, I am sooo sorry you had to go through all of this just so you would do something simple like working in an honest simple job.. Well this is the reality of our lives and cultures, no matter how much people try to show that we are living a life of dignity, and freedom, your example shows that there is something that is going behind closed doors and not many speak about.. these things need to be exposed, and people like your father and brother need to be punished for assaulting you with no justifiable reason.. They shouldn’t be assaulting you to begin with, with reason or without..

Sorry for not responding soon, but I was traveling..

I hope you are alive and well.

Peace

 

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